Sunday, November 23, 2008

Stir up Sunday Sermon - preached by The Reverend Charles Royden


I was given a copy of the Metro newspaper this week. It had ideas for Christmas presents. One was a T Shirt with a picture of Jesus, very like the Turing Shroud image. Underneath the picture it said, ‘Jesus is coming,’ ‘Look busy. ’

Today is the last Sunday in the church calendar, next week we begin Advent. The special theme for today in the church year is a celebration of Jesus as King. Of course today is also named a special Sunday after the collect which we use. We are on that special Sunday before Christmas which we call stir up Sunday. The collect uses those beautiful words

‘Stir up O Lord the will of thy faithful people. ’

Today is a day when we are meant to encourage each other, when we remind ourselves that Christ is our King. It is a day when we draw close to Advent, that season in which we prepare ourselves for the coming of Jesus at Christmas. And as we think of King Jesus coming at Christmas, so we welcome him into our own hearts.

But what does Kingship mean?

This would have been a lot easier to answer once, when kings were great and celebrated figures. They held high honour and were seen as having God’s seal upon them. Kings had a divine Right, they were chosen by God to do be kings and they were accountable to no person except God.

Now we often regard kings with contempt, instead of them demanding taxes of us we demand that they pay taxes. But once kings were figures of power.

No wonder Pilate must have laughed when Jesus was referred to as a king. For Pilate, Jesus could not be a king, because he did not fit the mould of a king. Kings are powerful figures, they demand respect and get it. When Pilate put ‘King of the Jews’ over Jesus, it was not in recognition of the kingship of Jesus, it was rather a mockery, Kings did not belong on crosses.

Do we take the kingship of Jesus seriously?

Do we think of Jesus as our King? Or do we think that his kingship is something for the future and so no of much concern to us now? Today we ask the question of ourselves to whom or what do we give our allegiance? Who holds dominion over us? What are we living for? What energizes and gives meaning to our lives each day?

We pray in the Lord’s Prayer ‘thy kingdom come. ’ This prayer is not supposed to be a prayer asking God to bring the world to an end. Rather it is asking that God’s kingdom would be established in our lives. The kingship of Christ is something which Jesus expects us to be able to share now. This will happen if we let our lives be the place where God’s reign extends. Today, above all days perhaps, is the day when we are encouraged to own Christ in our hearts.

Many people do not think that Jesus should be king. Politicians think that Jesus does not belong in affairs of state and government. Many leading businessmen think that Jesus should not be king in matters of economy and business. Often we do not think that Jesus should be king in a whole range of ways that concern what we do out of church.

Today we stir one another up and we remind ourselves that Jesus should be king of every part of our lives, our manners, our behaviour towards other people, are decisions about important life choices.

The kingship of Jesus is not recognised by many of this world, Jesus is King, yet he is not a king who demands obedience. Jesus is a different kind of king. He is a king who leads by example to show us the way that we should behave. This is a new kind of kingship, and one not of the worlds standards. The kingship of Jesus is a radically different kind of kingship. While human kings gain power in order reign over us, Jesus in his kingship demonstrates his authority by showing his love for his people, so much so that he gave his life for us.

What the Kingship of Jesus means

I was watching a film last week, a good film called ‘We Were Soldiers. ’ The main character was played by Mel Gibson, it was adapted from Harold G. Moore and Joseph Galloway's 1992 book "We Were Soldiers Once... and Young." Moore was the lieutenant colonel who in 1965 led the First Battalion of the Seventh Cavalry (ominously, the same regiment headed by Gen. George Armstrong Custer at Little Big Horn) in the battle of Landing Zone X-Ray in Vietnam's Ia Drang valley.

Moore lost more than 70 men from his regiment alone at Ia Drang, and a total of more than 300 died during the Pleiku campaign of which it was a part.

Mel Gibson plays Moore, a devout Catholic family man with a wife, Julie (Madeleine Stowe), and five children.

One the best scenes involves Moore warning his troops before they go into battle. He uses the following speech.

"We are moving into the Valley of the Shadow of Death where you will watch the back of the man next to you, as he will watch yours, and you won't care what colour he is, or by what name he calls God. We are going into battle against a tough and determined enemy. I can't promise you that I will bring you all home alive. But this I swear... when we go into battle, I will be the first to step on the field and I will be the last to step off. And I will leave no one behind... dead or alive. We will all come home together."

A man of his word, Lt. Col. Moore set foot on the field of battle first only to find himself and approximately 400 of his men surrounded by roughly 2000 North Vietnamese soldiers. The ensuing battle was one of the most savage in U. S. history, and the first major encounter between the soldiers of North Vietnam and America.

The film shows the two scenes where he lands first and leaves last. He was in the words of Revelation this morning the Alpha and the Omega.

Now that is the kind of a leader that a soldier wants, somebody who will not tell them what to do, like an earthly king, but rather who will lead with his own life and if necessary lay his life down first.

That is exactly what Jesus did with his kingship. He warned the disciples that they would face death and horror, but he said that he did not expect them to do anything which he was not prepared to do himself first.

When Revelation was written the Christians faced horrors, the real horror of martyrdom. Contrary to what so many Christians have mistakenly thought, Revelation is not a prediction of some horror some time in the future, for which we are still waiting. Revelation described for the Christians the very real and present danger which they faced in their daily lives. This is significant because throughout history many faithful Christians have considered that their own times were the most dreadful things which had ever happened and that an end to the world must be nigh. This happened to Martin Luther who believed that the Pope was the antichrist and he saw the end time near. .... It has happened with the American revolution and the Crusaders

Many have wrongly interpreted Revelation as a prophecy about the end of the world. Actually it is a type of writing (apocalyptic writing), a genre that used to be around, just like soap operas are a type of writing today. That type of writing does not describe actual future events any more than we are supposed to believe that the actors of Eastenders or Friends are real.

The purpose of the apocalyptic writing of Revelation is to tell us that real evil exists, that it wins battles, but that ultimately good will conquer evil and that whilst that fight is going on we have Christ at our side.

Alpha and Omega, he is the first one over the trenches and he will be the last one to leave. Christ is in this battle with us, we are not alone. When we have Christian work to do Christ will be with us. Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, Jesus is the beginning of all that we do and the end of all that we do. Are we the last generation? That question which Kate challenged us with last week. The message this week is that it doesn’t matter because in Christ all shall be made alive!

10 comments:

Russell L. Ross lzalbany65 said...

We Were Soldier Once and Young is Fiction as to these troops and reporter Joe Lee Galloway, Hal G, Moore,Vincent Cantu,Jack P, Smith, Larry Gwin, George Forrest
Hal G. Moore, a devout Catholic family man,did not know it was a Sunday? Hal G. Moore left dead troop on LZ X-Ray Nov 14-16 1965, after telling his troops he would not leave no man dead or alive on the battle field. in April 1966, Hal G. Moore saying he was going to Landing Zone Albany, as they the 2/7 Battalion had missing troops, went back to LZ X-Ray to look for his missing troops he left on LZ X-Ray. Back at Xray in April 66.
QUOTE: Steve Hanson
"Yes, we did return to the Ia Drang.

In fact, we air assaulted back into XRay.

it was quiet.

The mission was to search for and retrieve the remains of some Missing In Action. ( MIA )

We found them.

The battlefield had been cleaned up pretty good by both sides. We found a scattering of stuff and I noticed

the remains of one NVA soldier near the "Ant Hill" that sheltered the command post during the battle.

Steve Hanson.

https://lzxray.com/gallery_item/hal-moore-vietnam-10/

Joe Lee Galloway drives the KNIFE deeper into the Vietnam Veterans Back, while hugging them.

JOE LEE GALLOWAY'S TRUE FEELING ABOUT THE VIETNAM VETERAN.
" Damed if I'd want to go for a walk in the sun with them."
"Black GI's going thru long involved black power identification rituals."
"THE REST ARE JUST COMMITTING SUICIDE."

+Joe Lee Galloway did not rescue Jimmy Nakayama! Joe Lee Galloway did help load a burned trooper into
the Huey.
+But only after Joe Lee Galloway, was ask to help, by a Medic.

Russell L. Ross lzalbany65 said...

The Troops who did help Jimmy D. Nakayama and James Clark, Not Joe Lee Galloway!

Arturo Villarreal · Sidney Lanier High School

Sp 4 James Clark was not given any morphine by the medics. He came running towards my foxhole with

his clothes on fire. I helped putting the fire out and I just gave him some saline solution. I took him to the

CP and ask the doctor to give him something for the terrible pain, but the doctor told that they didn’t have

anything to give him and he just told me to just keep giving him the saline solution.

++After some time pass, some helicopters landed and I put him aboard one of them.

Robert Saucedo should have been leaving the war. Instead, he was riding in the 16th helicopter in a

formation high above the jungle on its way to the Ia Drang Valley.

Jimmy Nakayma died in flight,3 degree burns no other injuries. ie Crushed ankle.

"On the second day, they dropped a couple of napalms in the (landing zone), and a couple of guys

bringing in choppers – the engineers – they got burned," he said with eyes distant.

++"They ran to our foxholes. We treated them for burns."

++"We treated him for burns. His face was on fire. His weapon was on fire," he said. "It was bad.

Russell L. Ross lzalbany65 said...

When did the 1/7 leave the Plei Me camp to fly to LZ X-Ray?

One story said at 10:35 a.m. or 1035 hrs military time.

Page 58: of We Were Soldiers Once and Young.

Hal G. Moore the Air Assault Commander, as the 1/7th's assault group load the Huey's for the flight to LZ X-Ray from Plei Me camp.

"what is the flying time from Plei Me to Landing Zone X-Ray, 14.3 miles?"

Page 37: of We Were Soldiers Once and Young.

Hal G. Moore and Bruce Crandall plan an Air Assault.

Page 40: of We Were Soldiers Once and Young.

With a time table,and failed to put down the flying time from Plei Me to Landing Zone X-Ray, with out this

information, How could Hal G. Moore and Bruce Crandall plan the Assault?

Page 58: of We Were Soldiers Once and Young.

Jon Mills, 13 min and 15 sec, flight time to LZ X-Ray.

Page 59: of We Were Soldiers Once and Young.

Speed ( rate ) 110 knots, time 13 min and 15 sec, this time will take them 24.75 miles away, rounded up 25 miles.

The correct time is 8 min.

Formula for Time is

Distance X 60 divide by Rate ( Speed ) 14.3 X 60 = 858 divide by

110 = 7.8 min = 8 min time is rounded up to the nearest min.

How to figure out flight time

Formula for Distance is rate ( Speed ) X time divided by 60, 110 X 8 = 880 divide by

60 = 14.6 miles = 15 miles, miles is rounded up to the nearest 1/2 mile.

Using 7.8 min for time for the distance 110 X 7.8 = 858, divide by 60 = 14.3 miles

The distance from Plei Me to Landing Zone X-Ray.

Russell L. Ross lzalbany65 said...

Hal G. Moore is the godfather of ticket punching, complaining of other officer doing the same thing, in Vietnam ticket punching,.

page 344
Even more devastating to morale and effectiveness of every American unit in combat was the six-month limit on Battalion and brigade command.
THIS WAS TICKET-PUNCHING: A career officer had to have troop-command for promotion.

Hal G. Moore was THE GODFATHER OF TICKET-PUNCHING.

In the Korean War, Hal G. Moore stayed in a combat position ( INFANTRY ) 16 day's to get promoted, to Major.

Hal G. Moore's time inK company an Infantry unit, in combat 16 days.

Hal G. Moore knew nothing about the positions ( JOB ) he was put in to get promoted.

Hal G. Moore's TICKET-PUNCHING during peace time.

Japan

page 36 23 December 1945 Platoon Leader

page 37 After three weeks as a Platoon Leader, Hal G. Moore claims to become a company commander for

seven months ( Company commander doesn't show on his records )

1 July 45 Hal G. Moore ( Chief ) Construction Officer.

1 January 1947 Platoon Leader.

7 July 1947 ASST S-3 187 GLR

16 Feb 48 ASST Regt'l S-3, Med Det 187 GLR

USA

26 June 1948 Company Executive Officer ( XO )

9 July 1948 Platoon Leader. escort dead troops home.

19 Aug 1948 Platoon Leader.

14 Nov 1948 Tec & Tac ( testing parachutes )

Hal G. Moore's TICKET PUNCHING during combat.

KOREA.

After less than a week on the MLR.

3 July 1952,Asst company commander, Heavy Mortars.
Hal G. Moore knew nothing about Mortars.

8 July 1952, company commander ,Heavy Mortars.( 12 days )

24 July 1952,ASST Regt'l S-3

27 July 1952, Regt'l S-3

6 Feb 1953, Company Commander, K company. 16 days in combat.

23 Feb 1953, ASST G-3 ( XO,executive officer )( Division ).

Russell L. Ross lzalbany65 said...

Hal G. Moore explanation of his weapon loss. enemy and his units loss

WEAPONS LOSS AT LZ X-Ray Nov 14-16, 1965 Ia Drang, Vietnam

Page 198-199 We Were Soldiers Once and Young ( FICTION ) by Hal G. Moore and Joseph Lee Galloway

Hal G. Moore " In my after action report I would urge the Army establish tighter control on both friendly and enemy weapons evacuated from the battle field.

Hal G. Moore now blames the support troops, who kept his battalion alive at LZ X-Ray. for his weapon loss.

"SHAME!" on Hal G. Moore for doing so.

Hal G. Moore "We lost a lot of our own weapons, which were taken from our wounded men at the hospitals,

and many of the enemy weapons captured and sent out for evaluation by our intelligence officers simply

DISAPPEARED, siphoned off for souvenirs by REAR-AREA,[ Commandos], Medics and helicopter crewmen."

BUT! Hal G. Moore's weapon loss was from enemy capturing his weapons.

Subj: The Fog of War: The Vietnamese View of the Ia Drang Battle

http://www.generalhieu.com/e66pleime-2.htm

LZ X-Ray Nov 15,1965
Cuu claims he reported by radio to B3 Front Headquarters that his men had overrun the US position, captured more than 70 weapons.

Page 7 We Were Soldiers Once and Young ( FICTION ) by Hal G. Moore and Joseph Lee Galloway

Viera " The North Vietnamese came up,looked at me, He took my watch and my .45 pistol and walked on. I watched them STRIP off all our weapons: then they left.

FROM Joseph Lee Galloway's original story of Landing Zone X-RAY Nov,14-16, 1965

Twenty JAMESTOWN ( N.Y. ) POST- JOURNAL- Wednesday Evening,November 17,1965

By Joseph Galloway

A detail was assigned the job of collecting weapons and ammunition from the wounded before they were evacuated.

Fact: The only time a weapon, binoculars, issued watches, is sent back with the trooper, is when no one can identify them, and he has no other identification. These items have a serial number and the trooper signed these out.

page 4 Why did Hal G. Moore's troops take the dog tags off the dead?

Viera " I knelt beside him, took off his dog tags and put them in my shirt pocket."


What was Hal G. Moore's troops doing with the signal operating instructions booklets? didn't they know how to AUTHENTICATE ?
EXAMPLE you called for artillery, they could ask you to prove who you are by AUTHENTICATING C charlie, D delta.
you are given a sheet of paper eith the code on it, you would look and find the words sheet, you would go across

the top of the first column of the sheet and find charlie, you would then go down the left side first column go

down till you find delta, where charlie and D delta meet on the paper you find the letter X xray. the code for this

mission would be five letters from X X-Ray you stay on the delta column K O H R T U would be the correct

letter.

You were given 1 sheet of paper with codes( its called AUTHENTICATE ) on it for that mission, If BRIGADE felt it was needed, they sent out new codes

Page 91 Sergeant Zallen collected signal operating instructions booklets, and burned them.

Russell L. Ross lzalbany65 said...

From We Were Soldiers once And Young Joe Galloway and Harold G. Moore

Page 205 bottom of page, top 206

Hal G. MOORE, BRUCE CRANDALL AND JON MILLS COMMITTED ART 128 ( Assault )page 369, of the Manual for COURTS-MARTIAL UNITED STATES `1951, UCMJ

Hal G. Moore unslung his M-16, HE STILL HAD GRENADES ON HIS WEB GEAR and laid it on the bar, Mills and Bruce Crandall solemnly following suit with their .38's.

( That means they Bruce Crandall and Mills had to take their pistols out of their holsters )
Hal G. Moore then said:

"You got exactly thirty seconds to get some drink on this bar or I'M GOING TO CLEAN HOUSE.

Bruce Crandall pulling a gun on another officer who questioned his judgment.

It wasn't Hollywood fiction: Bruce Crandall, a Washington native and resident, did indeed point a gun at a fellow soldier, but in this case, reality was racier than the screen take.

The man yanked Bruce Crandall off a cot and made off-color remarks about his mother.

"And so I did go after a weapon," said Bruce Crandall, now 69. "But I didn't point it at his head; I pointed it at his crotch.

===Bruce Crandall, makes this statement about a MedEvac Pilot,a soldier who can't carry a weapon. in combat.

"If he didn't have the balls to fight the enemy, I mentioned that he sure as hell

shouldn't have the balls to come looking me up."

But, Bruce Crandall he did look you up, He did have Ball's.

======Medevac Pilots cannot carry weapons, they face the enemy weaponless.
Bruce Crandall did carry a weapon and could fire on enemy and he didn't.
Quote Bruce Crandall "there was an enemy troop in front of my Huey blades he open fire wounding my crew chief."

Bruce Crandall "we couldn't fire as we were on the Landing Zone."

Text from the UCMJ article 128 Assault

“(a) Any person subject to this chapter who attempts or offers with unlawful force or violence to do bodily harm to another person, whether or not the attempt or offer is consummated, is guilty of assault and shall be punished as a court-martial may
direct.


Russell L. Ross lzalbany65 said...

Part 1 of
Joseph Lee Galloway's original story of Landing Zone X-RAY Nov,14-16, 1965

Twenty JAMESTOWN ( N.Y. ) POST- JOURNAL- Wednesday Evening,November 17,1965

WOUNDED SOLDIER LOSES HALF HIS PLATOON IN BITTER CHU PONG FRAY

By JOSEPH GALLOWAY

Chu Pong Mountain, South Viet Nam ( UPI )---- The soldiers eyes were red from loss of sleep, and maybe a bit

from crying too, now that it was all over.

A three-day growth of beard stubbled his cheeks. But was hard to see because of the dirt. He was hurt, in terrible

pain, but you'd never know it. Slivers of shrapnel had ripped his chest and spared his leg.

He sat on the landing zone below the Chu Pong mountain where more Americans had died than ever before in

a battle against Communists in a war over Viet Nam. He had gone through hell -- three days of it--- and still a

bit dazed, more from lack of sleep then his wounds, though. When I walked up to him, he spoke, But not to me

in particular, nor to the other guys sitting around sipping the first hot cup of coffee they had since the fight

began.

Loses a Friend
" I took care of 14 of 'em myself," He said. "They were tough little bastards. You had to shoot them to pieces

before they quit coming . . . just rip them apart."

I squatted on my heels waiting for him to say more, But he didn't. Somebody told me he had lost half of his

platoon, including a friend he had served with for more than eight years. "What is his name?" I ask.

" It's not important," the sergeant slouching nearby said. "He's just one of us and he did a damn good job."

Everyone did a damn good job. And nobody knew it better than Gen. Knowles, task force commander and

deputy commander of the 1st Air Cavalry.

"These men were just great," he told me. "They were absolutely tremendous. I've never seen a better job

anywhere, anytime,"

Back From Battle
Monday another American soldier walked out of the jungle into the valley of death. Bullets whizzed over his

head and kicked up dirt at his feet.

" Get down you fool!" We shouted.

The GI kept walking, He carried no weapon, He walked straight and tall.

A mortar shell exploded nearby, He didn't waver, Shrapnel chopped off branches above my head. But the

American out there in the open came on until he was within a few feet of the battalion command bunker. He

looked funny, dazed.

Then we knew, he was shell shocked. He paused for a moment and looked around. He recognized the aid

station set up under the trees and walked toward it.

Just as the soldier reached the station he slumped to his knees, then pitched forward on his face, That is when

we saw his back for the first time.

It wasn't pretty, It had been blown open by a communist mortar.

Medics were unable to reach the soldier because of the almost solid wall of communist bullets and jagged steel

fragments coming from the jungle. So he walked out, The bullets and mortar did not bother him anymore, He

had his.

Russell L. Ross said...

part 2 of Joseph Lee Galloway's original story of Landing Zone X-RAY Nov,14-16, 1965

Twenty JAMESTOWN ( N.Y. ) POST- JOURNAL- Wednesday Evening,November 17,1965

WOUNDED SOLDIER LOSES HALF HIS PLATOON IN BITTER CHU PONG FRAY

By JOSEPH GALLOWAY

Veterans Cried
The men of the U.S. 1st Air Cavalry fought like heroes. They died the same way, Some took their wounds

without a whimper. Seasoned Veterans cried.

Col. Hal Moore of Bardstown, Ky., the commanding officer of the 7th Battalion, 1st cavalry, Came over to me,

tears streaming down his face, His men were catching from the slopes of this mountain range less than five

miles from the Cambodian border.

I'm kind of emotional about this, so excuse me," Moore said to me. "But I want you to tell the American people

that these men are fighters.

"Look at them."

Moore pointed to a Negro soldier lying in the shade of a tree. A Communist bullet had torn a huge hole in his

stomach. The soldier had his hands over the wound. You could see him bite his lip. He was in terrific pain, But

he made no whimper as he waited for a medical helicopter.

" Look at them," Moore said again. " They're great and the American people ought to know it."

WAR "ACCIDENT"
It was shortly after 8:30 a.m. Monday when one of those terrible accidents of war happened.

I was sitting in the command bunker, A mound of dirt screening us from the communist snipers, looking at the

wounded in the aid station just a few yards away.

Suddenly, I felt a searing heat on my face.

An American fighter-bomber had misjudged the Communist positions, and dropped a load of napalm. The

flaming jelly gasoline, impossible to shake or scrape off once it hits skin, splashed along the ground in a huge

dragon's tail of fire less then 25 yards away.

Screams penetrated the roar of the flames. two Americans stumbled out of the inferno. Their hair burned off in

an instant. their clothes were incinerated.

" Good God!" Moore cried. Another plane was making a run over the same area. The colonel grabbed a radio.

" You're dropping napalm on us!" he shouted. " Stop those damn planes."

At almost the last second, the second plane pulled up and away, its napalm tanks still hanging from the wings.

It was an hour before a medical helicopter could get into the area and tend to the two burned men. One GI was

a huge mass of blisters, the other not quite so bad. Somehow his legs had escaped the flames. But he had

breathed fire into his lungs and he wheezed for air.

A MEDIC ASK ME TO HELP GET THE MEN INTO THE HELICOPTER WHEN IT ARRIVED. THERE WERE

NO LITTERS. TENDERLY, WE PICKED THE SOLDIERS UP. I HELD A LEG OF THE MOST SERIOUSLY

BURNED MAN. I WASN'T TENDER ENOUGH. A BIG PATCH OF BURNED SKIN CAME OFF IN MY HAND.

Russell L. Ross said...

part 3 of Joseph Lee Galloway's original story of Landing Zone X-RAY Nov,14-16, 1965

Twenty JAMESTOWN ( N.Y. ) POST- JOURNAL- Wednesday Evening,November 17,1965

WOUNDED SOLDIER LOSES HALF HIS PLATOON IN BITTER CHU PONG FRAY

By JOSEPH GALLOWAY

VC BATTALIONS

Chu Pong Mountain rises 2,500 feet from the valley below. From the top, you could almost lob a mortar shell

into Cambodia. The mountain slope were heavily jungled. And they hid at least two battalions of North

Vietnamese Army regulars---- possibly the same troops who pinned down two companies of air cavalrymen not

far away about a week ago.

The cavalry were looking for them, spoiling for a fight. They found the Communist Monday and dropped by

helicopter into a small landing zone about the size of a football field at the base of the mountain on the valley

floor.

One platoon got about 300 yards up the mountain before the Communist opened up. From Behind, cut it off

and fired on the main cavalry force from three sides with small arms, heavy machine-guns, and mortars.


Time and again, the cavalrymen tried to move in and help the platoon' pull back, It was futile. The fire was to

heavy. The platoon spent the night on the mountainside. Their losses were heavy, but the damage to the

Communist was said to be heavier.

"We got 70 communist bodies stacked up in front of our positions," the platoon leader radioed back Monday.

Men Dying

It was shortly before noon Sunday when the cavalrymen swept down in the area about 12 miles west of Pleiku.

Ever since the nine day battle around the Special Forces camp at Plei Me, the cavalrymen have been

sweeping the jungles and running into sporadic contact with hard-core Communist units.

Brig. Gen. Richard Knowles, deputy commander of the air cavalry division, OFFERED ME A RIDE IN HIS

HELICOPTER.

WE CIRCLED OVER THE BATTLE GROUND. Air strikes went in below us. An American A1E skyraider was hit

on a low- level bombing run, and the pilot had no chance to bail out. The plane crashed and exploded in a

cluster of trees.

Men are dying down there, but they are doing their job. "This is good," Knowles said." This is what we came

for.

We've got a U.S. battalion well -equipped down there."

Many Dead
I got my chance to join the men on the ground about 8 P.M. I went with a helicopter loaded with supplies and

ammunition.

we were level with the middle of the mountain and in the darkness we could see the muzzle flashes of rifles

and machine-gun spitting bullets at us. I said a prayer.

Sgt.Maj. Basil Plumley of Columbus, Ga., met us at the landing zone, and led me back to Col. Moore's

command bunker.

" Watch your step," Plumley said, " There were dead people, all over here." They were dead Americans many

wrapped in ponchos.

At Day break Monday, Medical helicopters began landing and taking off again with the wounded.

A detail was assign the job of collecting weapons and ammunition from the wounded before they were evacuated.

Russell L. Ross said...

FACT: from Joseph Lee Galloway's original story of Landing Zone X-RAY Nov,14-16, 1965

Twenty JAMESTOWN ( N.Y. ) POST- JOURNAL- Wednesday Evening,November 17,1965

WOUNDED SOLDIER LOSES HALF HIS PLATOON IN BITTER CHU PONG FRAY


FACT: Joe Lee Galloway was with Gen Knowles on the 14 Nov 1965. that means he wasn't at Catecka Nov 13,1965 with Brown. page's 133-134-135.from We Were Soldiers Once and Young, are FICTION.

Joe Lee Galloway wasn't with Brown when the Sky Raider crashed.

On Nov 14,1965, Joe Lee Galloway was with Brig. Gen. Richard Knowles,all day till around 9:00 p.m. deputy commander of the air cavalry division, OFFERED ME ( Joe Lee Galloway )A RIDE IN HIS HELICOPTER.

Brig. Gen. Richard Knowles Command Post was at Pleiku.

WE CIRCLED OVER THE BATTLE GROUND. Air strikes went in below us. An American A1E SkyRaider was hit on a low- level bombing run, and the pilot had no chance to bail out. The plane crashed and exploded in a cluster of trees.